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Posted on January 08 2025 20:32:53
Jeremy, Thanks for that! A singular talent. I played 'Grace' and 'Sketches' daily for the longest time. It's always cool to hear something new (at least to me) from an artist cut off way too early. I'm thus inspired to break those CDs out...I need to hear 'Witches Rave'.



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Posted on January 09 2025 05:10:51
I'm sort of embarrassed about it, but I love Thin Lizzy.

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Posted on January 09 2025 05:27:14
still my new favorite band- actually, this is fast becoming my absolute favorite band EVER (with all respects to Iron Maiden- Up The Irons!!!) in the modern era, the more of their back catalog I get:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAKf1gTx7qM

Nightwish- Nemo (old singer)

This is me for forever
One of the lost ones
The one without a name
Without an honest heart
as compass

This is me for forever
One without a name
These lines the last endeavor
To find the missing lifeline

Refrain
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
All I wish is to dream again
My loving heart
Lost in the dark
For hope I'd give my everything

My flower, withered between
The pages 2 and 3
The once and forever bloom
gone with my sins

Walk the dark path
Sleep with angels
Call the past for help
Touch me with your love
And reveal to me my true name

Refrain

Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
Oh how I wish to dream again

Once and for all
And all for once
Nemo my name forever more

Nemo sailing home
Nemo letting go

Refrain

Once and for all
And all for once
Nemo my name forevermore
My name forevermore


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Posted on January 09 2025 16:37:36
Rich wrote:
I'm sort of embarrassed about it, but I love Thin Lizzy.


What's to be embarrassed about? For the 'Jailbreak' album alone, those guys deserve absolute props. Great twin guitar assault, and a great front man in the late Phil Lynott.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbE0NUltFqg


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Posted on January 09 2025 17:20:33
Emerald is awesome.


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Posted on January 11 2025 07:39:47
Dean - this one's for you.

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Posted on January 11 2025 19:57:02
Forsythe-1 wrote:
Jeremy, Thanks for that! A singular talent. I played 'Grace' and 'Sketches' daily for the longest time. It's always cool to hear something new (at least to me) from an artist cut off way too early. I'm thus inspired to break those CDs out...I need to hear 'Witches Rave'.


Hell yes. I bought Grace the day it came out back in 94. The night before, I saw the video for 'Last Goodbye' on 120 Minutes (remember that show?) and they said the record was going to be released the next day. I was transfixed on Buckley's voice and songcraft immediately; no other musician(s) has ever had that effect on me. Anyway...I was out in front of Crow's Nest the next morning (they weren't even open yet when I got there). smiley

There is no artist more influential on me, both vocally and lyrically, than Jeff (although Tori Amos and Billy Holiday come close). He's the Dylan or Lennon of our generation as far as I'm concerned; not Cobain or Corgan, but Jeff Buckley.

I've got another one you may not have heard: Forget Her (a Grace outtake). It has a sound more akin to Sketches in my estimation. Reminds me a bit of Everybody Here Wants You (which is one of the sexiest songs ever written).




The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.






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Posted on January 11 2025 21:23:07
If I have one criticism it'd be vibrato overkill.


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Posted on January 14 2025 03:57:25
Wise Up by one of the best songwriters around, Aimee Mann (from Magnolia, my favorite film). I marvel at the songcraft of this piece.

This is the sort of simple piano ballads I would do if anyone cared to listen (and pay me). smiley




The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.






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Posted on January 14 2025 04:36:31
Rich wrote:
If I have one criticism it'd be vibrato overkill.


I've heard that said before, and it's a valid criticism...but for me Jeff Buckley was the real deal. Great hooks, melodies and I'm a sucker for some of the open tunings he applied on guitar. Add all that to the guy just had tremendous range vocally. I can't believe it's been that long since 'Grace' was released.
BTW, another good call with Aimee Mann, Jeremy. This is the one that grabbed me years ago by her, and I've been following her career since:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xX3lQ3qms

I was looking for her husband Michael Penn's video for 'Long Way Down', directed by the Brothers Quay but to no avail. Always liked that song!


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Posted on January 14 2025 05:20:26
I've heard that said before, and it's a valid criticism...but for me Jeff Buckley was the real deal.


Yeah, this is actually the first I've heard from him (but certainly not of him). I really dig the songs - but I'm just put off by the fact that Buckley seems to have liked adorning too much of the song with Christina Aguilera style "vocal acrobatics". I'm probably biassed after being raised with a sister who was constantly listening to chart R&B crap sprinkled with boybands. I knew I'd finally won when I caught her loading Black Sabbath albums onto her iPod...


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Unrelated: I was having a fag outside the local rock club the other day in my Anthrax T-Shirt and some white guy with an afro and a Libertines shirt comes out, sparks up, and says "How you doin', having a good night?" To which I responded "Yeah, you"

He then goes, "I guess you've been in the metal room all night then", and before I've managed to respond to that question he's already asked me what Anthrax are like and if I like anything but metal.

At this point I glanced at my cig to see how much of it was left so I could escape inside.

So I decided to try and explain that Anthrax have been around for 25 years and on top of having developed gradually, had two very different vocalists, and before I could finish doing that, he goes "I don't really like metal, well except for [insert needlessly long list of bands I'm vaguely aware of], but I guess [band] and [band] are more [something]core than metal".

Now what the fuck are "metalcore", "moshcore", "emocore", "thrashcore", "funkcore", "grindcore", "funk metal", "groove metal", "alternative metal", and "alternative metal". What the fuck does "alternative" mean anyway? Who the hell had the idea to invent 20 billion different musical subgenres when it's impossible to tell the difference between most of them?


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Posted on January 14 2025 14:27:52
Rich wrote:
Yeah, this is actually the first I've heard from him (but certainly not of him). I really dig the songs - but I'm just put off by the fact that Buckley seems to have liked adorning too much of the song with Christina Aguilera style "vocal acrobatics". I'm probably biassed after being raised with a sister who was constantly listening to chart R&B crap sprinkled with boybands. I knew I'd finally won when I caught her loading Black Sabbath albums onto her iPod...


I used to call this type of R+B singing 'falling down the stairs vocals'. Some of those kids need to listen to some Al Green Or Marvin Gaye to see how it's done...I never thought of Jeff Buckley that way though--I hear his Qawwali influences more than anything. He certainly was a vocal gymnast though!

As far as all the sub genres of music, it's funny that you mention Anthrax, because they were some of the first to mix genres with Rap and Metal. (for better or for worse, depending who you speak to.) I understand the need to attach an identifier on something but start to shake my head at the 500 'sub-genres' of death metal, all of which sound like cookie monster reciting an anatomy journal.
To wit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10jxBbY_DMQ

Just out of curiosity, Rich, Joey Belladonna or John Bush era?


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Posted on January 14 2025 15:37:02
To wit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10jxBbY_DMQ


LMAO!

And I completely agree on the Death Metal thing, though that sort of music has it's charms when you're in a large crowd of people knocking each other over!

Just out of curiosity, Rich, Joey Belladonna or John Bush era?


Belladonna all the way! I started off listening to metal from that "scene", and I suppose I still just love that style. Most of it, of course, has to be taken with a grain of salt, I mean, who the fuck could take Exodus seriously?


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Posted on January 14 2025 20:04:22
Beyond 'Only', I'm a Belladonna era guy. They were fun...something that is seriously lacking in the Metal community. Also, you are correct...Death Metal and it's billion sub genres are always great to mosh to...I just sometimes fall over laughing at the ones who are so serious about it. "WHOO! I'm scared!" It's going to be interesting to see how things develop over the next several decades...are these guys going to be playing the casino circuit?
BTW, I knew I was past my prime when I'd rather leave before the second encore to beat concert traffic. I was so thrilled that I was "making good time" when I realized I had become my father. smiley


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Posted on January 15 2025 02:03:32
Forsythe-1 wrote:

Beyond 'Only', I'm a Belladonna era guy. They were fun...something that is seriously lacking in the Metal community.


Eg-fucking-zactly.

I knew I was past my prime when I'd rather leave before the second encore to beat concert traffic. I was so thrilled that I was "making good time" when I realized I had become my father


He must be very proud smiley


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Posted on January 15 2025 05:53:03
ah, changed my mind.


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Posted on January 15 2025 14:50:09
Dude, it's OK. He's not that scary.


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Posted on January 15 2025 21:54:46
Who's scary?


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Posted on January 16 2025 02:35:27
Steeeeeeeve PERRY!


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