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Chronic Harlot
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| Posted on November 25 2007 02:04:56 |
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Credit to Tupperfan
The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.
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Moeskido
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| Posted on November 25 2007 03:02:22 |
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| Too subtle, Jeremy. No one will get the implications of it. |
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| Posted on November 25 2007 04:58:05 |
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LMAO!
Thanx, Moe. I needed to laugh. 
Actually, when Tup sent it to me, I got a very uncomfortable feeling. It's quite a creepy image.
The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.
Edited by Chronic Harlot on November 25 2007 05:03:59
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| Posted on November 25 2007 11:09:40 |
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I'm guessing there were no more states admitted then?
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| Posted on November 25 2007 16:34:12 |
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That's a good question. Have any ideas?
The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.
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| Posted on November 25 2007 17:36:46 |
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Let's say the stars represent the 7 continentsv(Asia, Africa, Antartica, South America, North America, Europe and Oceania). As for the stripes, there's nine, I thought it could be the commendments (they dropped one...)
Or I can simply modify the symbol, as this was done as a test. 
This post was "obviously" written "under the influence":
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Edited by Tupperfan on November 25 2007 17:40:04
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| Posted on November 25 2007 21:49:43 |
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9 stripes could represent how the people of earth are 9 times straighter than the next leading planet...
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| Posted on November 25 2007 23:28:42 |
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or how were 9 times more likely to fuck you in the ass than, fuck you in the ass...
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| Posted on November 26 2007 00:05:27 |
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Or 9 times more likely to not know why they have 9 stripes on their emblem...
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| Posted on November 26 2007 00:22:26 |
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The specific number of items in the design is a legitimate consideration. Anyone in the mirror-administration who commissioned this might hear from a bunch of cabinet people about it, at least some of whom would be semi-literate enough to comment upon symbology. A logo for the New World Order would incorporate its entire domain, while emphasizing jingoism at home. No detail is insignificant in this regard.
Edited by Moeskido on November 26 2007 00:29:08
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| Posted on November 26 2007 02:14:44 |
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Well, is was a prototype I did, inspired by Jer's vision of the logo (I have another version with no american flag, and the oceans were crimson colored, as you can see here.
But actually, even though a few details could be tempered with, to add to the symbolism, I think I like the egocentric (or nationalisticocentric, or ideologicocentric) idea behind it. It shows the origins of the empire, and its heart. Like many representations of Earth as seen in the US, it focuses on the western hemisphere. I'm sure some of you remember some of the maps you'd see in high school, where the US looked like it actually was an island surrounded by a sea of grey, instead of sharing land borders with two other countries.
After all, symbols evolved and their meanings changed through history, look at old Roman symbols, still around, or the deformation the Nazis did of the swastika...
And an American-based empire, like the Roman one, wouldn't let go of its most cherished symbols because it expanded beyond its borders!
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| Posted on November 27 2007 00:15:03 |
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Personally, guys, I dont think anything further needs to be really extrapolated upon.
The US, even today, has garrisoned the world...yet we still only have 50 stars for 50 'states'; this, despite the fact that countries like the Philippines, Okinawa, Iraq and numerous other nations that I'm too lazy to list are essentially American 'colonies' in everything but name anyway. I highly doubt they'll ever be another 'state' (as Americans think of one) ever again. We've grown to nativist for that. Puerto Rico couldn't even get in, especially not in this climate of racism and xenophobia.
As to the number of stars or stripes visible in the symbol, it doesn't have to mean that there are only 7 stars or nine stripes or whatever. It just means the earth is draped in the American flag, and some parts aren't visible.
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skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.
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| Posted on November 27 2007 00:25:06 |
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Glad you agree. I never really had the intention of adding extra symbolism to the stars and stripes as it meant enough this way and I didn't think it was that important...The whole thing says enough.
Guess I got defensive on my "creation"
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| Posted on November 27 2007 02:28:27 |
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| Just trying to bring up the issues of detail which inevitably occur in real life, as they do within current national symbols. Didn't mean to intrude upon a done deal. |
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| Posted on November 27 2007 02:37:04 |
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Well, I think the main point remains the story-telling value of said symbolism.
It has to ring an immediate bell with the "viewer". It is indeed a creepy image that no one can dismiss.
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Edited by Tupperfan on November 27 2007 04:26:55
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| Posted on November 27 2007 04:20:21 |
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| I understand that. I happen to feel that undiluted American flag elements might be a bit dated for a 23rd century symbol. You're the designer. I just kibitz. |
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| Posted on November 27 2007 07:47:14 |
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Jeremy wrote:
Personally, guys, I dont think anything further needs to be really extrapolated upon.
The US, even today, has garrisoned the world...yet we still only have 50 stars for 50 'states'; this, despite the fact that countries like the Philippines, Okinawa, Iraq and numerous other nations that I'm too lazy to list are essentially American 'colonies' in everything but name anyway. I highly doubt they'll ever be another 'state' (as Americans think of one) ever again. We've grown to nativist for that. Puerto Rico couldn't even get in, especially not in this climate of racism and xenophobia.
As to the number of stars or stripes visible in the symbol, it doesn't have to mean that there are only 7 stars or nine stripes or whatever. It just means the earth is draped in the American flag, and some parts aren't visible.
This is why I laugh in a nervous way whenever somebody denies that the USA's an Empire. People forget that all the great European empires were based around "Protecting our interests" and trade, the vast amounts of territorry the major powers aquired were almost an unintentional by-product of that ethos.
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