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| Posted on January 02 2025 03:07:31 |
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Jeremy wrote:
The chain of events of what happened during those couple of months just befuddled everyone that investigated the case. I've read some of the court transcripts, and it all just seems so impossible. Although anyone that's ever read Lord of the Flies might not find it so hard to believe.
It's always horrifying when literature or movies manage to give a believable and convincing insight into the dark sides of the human psyche. Most shocking about it is the "banality of evil", how some of the most horrifying deeds are not committed out of actual sadism or ill will, but by the most trite impulses we all know from ourselves and which can take over under certain circumstances. I always find such fiction most convincing when it successfully portrays the sad fact that the line between "good" and "evil" is much thinner than many people believe.
"Lord of the Flies" is a good example ... and there is another movie that jumps to my mind: "Das Experiment", a 2001 German movie. Its story is based on the infamous "Stanford Prison Experiment", where scientists assigned common voluntary civilians the roles of prisoners and guards. After a few days only, the "guards" would start harassing and torturing the "prisoners", so the experiment had to be stopped.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250258/
I know foreign movies are very hard to get in the US, Hollywood rather re-films their own American versions of foreign films than exposing Americans to subtitled or dubbed versions, but if you are interested, maybe you can find it anywhere. It's really worth watching, although it becomes a tad too drastic in the depiction of violence towards the end, for my taste.
The whole thing really disturbs me because of how familiar Gertrude and those kids are; I come from that same American midwest small-town culture.
When movies hit "close to home" like that, they are even more touching ... when small details, such as regional dialects or locations you are familiar with are involved, a movie significantly gains realism.
How is life in such an environment? Are the clichés about small-town-life true (such as small-mindedness, people all obsessed about what "the neighbours think", giving a clean impression to the outside while behind closed doors, the most twisted things happen)? 
A movie that touched me very much because of that realism is "Das wei?Ÿe Rauschen" (="The White Noise" ) , a very realistic movie about a 21 year old guy starting to suffer from paranoid schizophrenia. Since I suffered from a short-lasting psychotic episode of schizophrenia as well, 3 years ago, I have the necessary insight to claim this movie is really by far the best one on this topic, it really manages to give healthy people a realistic impression on this illness. The acting really is brilliant, so is the directing.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0276617/
The most famous movie on the topic of schizophrenia certainly is "A Beautiful Mind", but in my opinion, it's an over-hyped, watered-down and lurid Hollywood flick, which never actually bothers to portray that illness in a realistic way, but mutilates the topic to make mass-compatible Hollywood eye- and mind-candy out of it.
But I assume "Das wei?Ÿe Rauschen" is almost impossible to acquire in the US; so if anyone of you is interested, if you like "artsy" problem movies and don't mind watching foreign movies with subtitles, I could upload the movie for you (my DVD copy includes English subtitles in addition to the German soundtrack).
So if anyone of you would like to see it, just let me know ... we'd just have to find some server online which would allow storing and downloading 4.4GBs.
"In earlier religions the spirit of the time was expressed through the individual and confirmed by miracles. In modern religions the spirit is expressed through the many and confirmed by reason."
- Heinrich Heine (1797-1856)
Edited by Sim on January 02 2025 03:11:15
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| Posted on January 02 2025 03:18:52 |
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Jeremy wrote:
Well, Saw I was much more Hitchcockian in execution. It's director called it a 'punk-rock homage' to Hitchcock, actually. In fact, there really isn't much violence shown at all in the first film; it's the blanks your mind starts filling in that I think disturbs people.
However, you're absolutely right about Saw II thru Saw IV. They're gory. What I'm actually hooked on is the suspenseful continuing storyline (it's addictive once you get into it); the bizarre, yet strangely delicate father/daughter relationship between Jigsaw and Amanda; and of course all the crazy plot-twists.
Ok, that sounds interesting... maybe I should give at least "Saw I" a try. "Punk-rock homage to Hitchcock" sounds promising. 
"In earlier religions the spirit of the time was expressed through the individual and confirmed by miracles. In modern religions the spirit is expressed through the many and confirmed by reason."
- Heinrich Heine (1797-1856)
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| Posted on January 02 2025 06:24:17 |
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Das Experiement was a very interesting movie!
This post was "obviously" written "under the influence":
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| Posted on January 02 2025 21:16:08 |
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Jeremy wrote:
Rich wrote:
This reminds me of the time when I hit my best friend because she didn't like Garden State.
How could someone not like Garden State?
That's how I felt after watching it. The main complaint seems to have been with Natalie Portman's character. I thought she was cute.
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| Posted on January 02 2025 21:18:54 |
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"Natalie Portman's character. I thought she was cute."
Natalie would be cute if she were playing the Elephant Man.
Was it the whole 'liar' thing that bothered your friend?
BTW, there's a particular angle of Portman's bottom in 'Closer' when she was stripping that was just...yeah.
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| Posted on January 02 2025 21:20:21 |
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yuh...link please? 'Cause I'm too lazy to look it up?
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Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity.
Yes we can heal this nation.
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| Posted on January 02 2025 21:24:53 |
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The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.
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| Posted on January 02 2025 21:28:25 |
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Ah. Hm. Yay! 
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Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity.
Yes we can heal this nation.
Yes we can repair this world.
Yes we can.
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| Posted on January 02 2025 21:48:20 |
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Jeremy wrote:
"Natalie Portman's character. I thought she was cute."
Natalie would be cute if she were playing the Elephant Man.
Was it the whole 'liar' thing that bothered your friend?
BTW, there's a particular angle of Portman's bottom in 'Closer' when she was stripping that was just...yeah.
It seemed to have been her child-like enthusiasm more than anything. I'd love to meet a girl with a personality like Sam's, and I'd love it even more if she looked like Portman
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| Posted on January 03 2025 10:08:56 |
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Dude.
I remember watching closer and thinking: "Best (or worst) tease ever!"
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| Posted on January 04 2025 05:49:26 |
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Tupperfan wrote:
Dude.
I remember watching closer and thinking: "Best (or worst) tease ever!"
I read that they shot an alternate take of the one strip club scene where she was completely nude, but did not use it...why can't that footage leak...?
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