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Author So Saddam's Dead...
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Posted on December 30 2006 12:56:07
...why does it feel like such an empty victory?
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Posted on December 30 2006 18:26:10
Because Iraq is in worse shape now than when he was in power.


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Posted on December 30 2006 19:19:11
I agree with the sentiment...I agree that that area will never be the same again (unless we get another dictator in power because all those people understand is either fear or tyranny, there is no such thing as equality)...but part of me was expecting something...maybe some type of fufillment that this sicko is gone...not to say that I'm losing sleep over his death or anything...I dunno...my grandfather talks about the Nuremberg trials and how each one of those officers death brought some type of...completion...to his life and the lives of his fellow officers and the American public...so why don't I feel the same???
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Posted on December 30 2006 20:10:28
...unless we get another dictator in power because all those people understand is either fear or tyranny, there is no such thing as equality...


The typical combination of western arrogance, superiority and ignornace. No, what drives the civil war in Iraq has nothing to do with what "those people" understand; it has to do with the same thing that drove the Irish catholics and prodestants to kill each other: their differeing intepretations of their shared religion.

And the legacy of western imperialism in the region is also another reason for the chaos. The nation state of Iraq exists as a result of foreign interference a century ago.




The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on my
skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their breath
and disappeared, my heart went cold, and only hollow
rhythms resounded from within.




Edited by Ro on December 30 2006 20:16:03
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Posted on December 30 2006 23:18:59
Ro wrote:
...unless we get another dictator in power because all those people understand is either fear or tyranny, there is no such thing as equality...


The typical combination of western arrogance, superiority and ignornace. No, what drives the civil war in Iraq has nothing to do with what "those people" understand; it has to do with the same thing that drove the Irish catholics and prodestants to kill each other: their differeing intepretations of their shared religion.

And the legacy of western imperialism in the region is also another reason for the chaos. The nation state of Iraq exists as a result of foreign interference a century ago.


What I mean by "those people" are the Arab nation in general. Through out history the Arab world has been ruled by dictators. From Hammurabi to Saladin himself, the classic golden rule scenario: "He who has the gold makes the rules".

Well now that no one is standing in the wealth financially or spiritually (as you pointed out with the different interpratations of Islam) everyone is vying to be the next "savior" of the Arabic world and it doesn't appear to be ending anytime soon.

The war was wrong. I admit that, part of me supported it only for the factor I wanted to see that sicko suffer at the hands of his own people. I got that...now I'm unfortunately left with the feeling of..."now what?"...
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Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:49:27
tabarnak?

Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:43:56
I've vented my spleen enough for one night...time for more beer. smiley

Tupperfan
09/08/2007 01:42:21
Shit de fuck de shit de merde de tabarnak!!!

Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:35:03
I really doubt we'd ever manage to capture him alive, in the first place...If he were captured, then put him on trial...but I sure as hell wouldn't cry if he was killed evading capture.

Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:30:20
And the tapes probably turn up around those times because they're answering whatever new BS is coming out of the Bush camp.

Ro
09/08/2007 01:29:57
Putting him on trial would be in-line with the law, as well as the precepts of modern civilization, but to hell with all that wussy crap, right?

Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:29:41
In the video, he put new emphasis on going after capitalism, globalization and the like. Hmm...ya think he fears the spread of Western ideals? Look at how many illegal satellite dishes are in Tehran

Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:27:25
Putting him on trial would just give him even more free publicity. IMHO, he's one of those rare people who are simply too dangerous to let live.

Ro
09/08/2007 01:26:58
I just find it strange how these tapes always turn up when the Bush administration has a new PR campaign.

Sam Cogley
09/08/2007 01:26:21
I don't care what religion or culture they're from, I have NO use for anyone who targets noncombatant civilians intentionally.

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